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Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Surprise (NOT): AIDS Deniers Contribute to Vax Hysteria

This article relies heavily on an interview with Rethinking AIDS Board Member Christian Fiala. It is no surprise that AIDS Deniers have their hands in anti-vaccine hysteria; but it is not any less disturbing.

Gardasil controversy soars, as Bachmann, Perry drop Drug blasted as 'money-making machine' that's useless in fighting cervical cancer
Posted: October 02, 2011
By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WND

Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann, two presidential candidates who sparred over the issue of Texas vaccinations, may be floundering in the polls, but the topic of Merck's controversial Gardasilis heating up – with an Austrian physician who studied the drug saying it is not only dangerous, but useless in reducing cervical cancer, the stated reason it would have been administered to young girls under an executive order from Gov. Perry.

Dr. Christian Fiala, who successfully fought the use of the drug in Austria, told WND this week "there is no proof of a causal relationship of HPV and cervical cancer (correlation is not necessarily causation) and there is no evidence that HPV vaccine reduces the overall number of cervical cancer (cases)."

'SCARY MEDICINE: Exposing the dark side of vaccines'

In an email, Fiala called the HPV vaccination plan "a money-making machine without any benefit for patients. But some inherent risks."

Officials report that there have been 17,500 or more "adverse" incident reports that have been made over the last few years because of the use of the vaccination.

Fiala, who fought the idea of vaccination with Gardasil as part of a national health standard in Austria, says he was targeted by the vaccine developers for his findings.

"The doctors involved in vaccine development submitted an official complaint ... accusing me of doing harm to the image of doctors," Fiala said. "The investigation did not go far, because I could show that I fully respect evidence based on medicine. Therefore, the investigation was closed. But it could have cost me the right to [practice] medicine. It was meant as a threat."

He said that while he was arguing over the application of the medicine, an 18-year-girl was found dead in her bed.

"She had been absolutely healthy before her death, except some central nervous symptoms in the few days prior to her death. … This happened three weeks post-HPV vaccination," he said.

Then, another girl, 16, was hospitalized with similar symptoms and was in intensive care for a week before she started recovering.

"For obvious reasons this slowed down the enthusiasm for the vaccine in Austria," he said.

As a result, the product is not greatly promoted in his country, "and it is used infrequently."

Dr. Jane Orient of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons also told WND that she battled Perry's plan in 2007 and 2008 to inoculated school girls.

"Our position was that this was a violation of parental rights and patients' rights, to mandate a vaccine without a really good public health reason," she said.

She pointed out that the HPV virus is spread only by sexual contact and not in routine school situations. And she said there were a lot of questions about the brand new drug, among them the direct link between the HPV vaccine and any side effects.

"It tends to worry me quite a lot if I give a shot and [a patient] drops dead," she said.

"It should be that the patient is the one to make the determination [to get vaccinated]; the state should not be demanding that little girls be subjected to this."

She told WND that it was good for the issue to be raised at the level of a presidential race, because the public needs to debate and decide such issues.

When Bachmann raised the issue,the traditional media attacked her for asserting that the vaccine could be dangerous and should not be imposed by government.

The Bachmann attack "may be hurting her considerably more than him," stated theInternational Business Times, citing her narrative about a mother who complained the treatment had injured her daughter. "Bachmann did not offer any scientific evidence to suggest there is actually a viable link between Gardasil and mental retardation."

The report said: "Of the 35 million doses of Gardasil distributed in the U.S., only about 0.05 percent of individuals who have been vaccinated have reported some kind of side effect, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Mental retardation was not one of them."

The Washington Post joined the criticism, saying, "Her offense quickly turned to defense when her comments were criticized by an extremely long list of groups and people, including Rush Limbaugh, the Washington Post editorial board, Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control.

"In the wake of Bachmann's comments," the report continued, "there doesn't seem to be a rush of stories questioning the safety of Gardasil. There appears to be only one such story: a WISH-TV Indianapolis report about Zeda Pingel, whose mother claims she's suffered health problems after being vaccinated."

The Student Life publication at Washington University accused Bachmann of making verbal gaffes.

"The virus itself is the most common sexually transmitted infection. According to the Centers for Disease Control, some 50 percent of sexually active American adults will contract HPV during their lifetimes. HPV is a very real problem, and this vaccine can help prevent its spread.

"With women comprising half our population, that this claim, which can do nothing but hurt women's health, was made is concerning," the publication said.

Some 17,500 individuals have suffered side effects such as Guillain-Barre Syndrome, Bell's Palsy and even death.

In the debate, Bachmann said Perry's act was "a violation of liberty interests."

"We cannot forget in the midst of this executive order, there was a big drug company that made millions of dollars because of this mandate," she continued. "Is it about life or about millions of dollars for a drug company?"

Perry said the donation from the vaccine maker, Merck, was only $5,000, and he was insulted if Bachmann was suggesting he could be "bought for $5,000."

"I'm offended for all the little girls who didn't have a choice. That's what I'm offended for," she responded.

Neither the Bachmann nor the Perry campaigns returned WND requests for comment.

But critics of Perry point out that the vaccine is supposed to address a disease only transmitted by sexual activity, and the issue isn't the mundane, clinical argument that Gardasil supporters portray.

At the What Doctors Don't Tell You blog, a campaign called Truth About Gardasil was highlighted.

"What they are not telling you is that thousands of girls are having adverse reactions to the HPV vaccines, some have even died – at last count, at least 103 lives have been lost. We have got to do something about this. These girls need our help! These girls are having reactions such as; seizures, strokes, dizziness, fatigue, weakness, headaches, stomach pains, vomiting, muscle pain and weakness, joint pain, auto-immune problems, chest pains, hair loss, appetite loss, personality changes, insomnia, hand/leg tremors, arm/leg weakness, shortness of breath, heart problems, paralysis, itching, rashes, swelling, aching muscles, pelvic pain, nerve pain, menstrual cycle changes, fainting, swollen lymph nodes, night sweats, nausea, temporary vision/hearing loss just to name some of them!"

Actually, the government itself has documented deaths from reactions to the vaccine, although the total doesn't match the blog's claim of fatalities.

Anecdotally, the government's documents confirm:

The case of a 19-year-old woman who was given Gardasil and reported, "Headache, nausea, dizziness, chilling, tiredness, shortness of breath, complained of chest pain, severe cramps." She died of "acute cardiac arrhythmia."

A 13-year-old girl was vaccinated and, 10 days later, developed fever. According to federal reports she "did not recover and was admitted to the hospital. … She developed dyspnoea and went into a coma … she expired [that day]."

And a 10-year-old developed "progressive loss of strength in lower and upper extremities almost totally ... nerve conduction studies [showed Guillain-Barre syndrome]." The case was considered "immediately life-threatening."

Those reports have been monitored over the years byJudicial Watch,a Washington watchdog corruption fighter, since the drug's approval by the Food and Drug Administration

"To say Gardasil has a suspect safety record is a big understatement. These reports are troubling and show that the FDA and other public-health authorities may be asleep at the switch," Tom Fitton, president of the organization, told WND when the death and injury reports were arriving.

Judicial Watch launched a comprehensive investigation of Gardasil's safety record in 2008 after the drug's manufacturer,Merck & Co., began a major effort to lobby in state legislatures to impose requirements that girls be given their product.

It was in 2008 when Judicial Watch obtained documents from the FDA documenting "anaphylactic shock," "foaming at mouth," "grand mal convulsion," "coma" and "now paralyzed" descriptions of the complications from Gardasil. The company wanted it to be mandatory for all schoolgirls.

The federal reports document some three dozen deaths in the United States, although an activist organization claims there have been almost 70 deaths, nearly 800 "serious" reactions and thousands of minor reactions.

Merck spokeswoman Jennifer Allen Woodruff told WND that the drug addresses a medical need, that of reducing the rates of HPV.

She said it has been approved widely around the world, with 120 countries having examined and approved its use.

"Nothing is more important to Merck than the safety of our vaccines and those who use them," she said. "The facts about Gardasil are clear and its efficacy and safety … were established."

She declined to say that Merck had not lobbied state lawmakers for laws that would force the vaccine on children and families, instead offering that the company focused on lobbying efforts regarding the "potential school requirements" in some states.

She said the company's goal was simply to provide information to those who made such decisions.

However, the vaccine has had a few bumps. Agence France-Presse reported in 2009 that Spanish authorities withdrew tens of thousands of doses of the vaccine when two teen girls were hospitalized.

In the United Kingdom, an investigation was launched after two young girls died following their injections of the drug.

And the Daily News and Analysis from India said the Indian Council of Medical Research suspended a cervical cancer control vaccination program for girls after four deaths and complications for 120 more.

The Truth about Gardasilhas launched a videocalled One More Girl that publicizes "questions" about Gardasil's safety.


  1. Seth, the link to the article did not work, so not sure what "publication" this article came from. But with Fiala and Dr. Orient of AAPS and the list of unsubstantiated "adverse events" and unnamed girls dying, it's not strong on credibility.

    Also, I love that Fiala said he believes in science based medicine! I bet Orac would disagree.

    Also, RA Facebook deleted a second thread discussing Clark Baker and his lies involving OMSJ. This thread was actually up for a few days and had over 50 comments, but RA Facebook finally deleted the entire thing; Censorship Again. Maybe because Brian Carter showed up cursing and being hateful.

  2. Wonderful to see rabidly anti-abortion WingNutDaily and the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons are now championing the wisdom of "Austria’s most notorious abortionist" Christian Fiala.

    Apparently when he's not busy denying that HIV causes AIDS or that HPV causes cervical cancer he's inflicting "demonic psycho-terror" on the "peacefully praying protesters" who gather outside his clinic hassling his patients.

    So many kinds of Weird here. God bless the Internet.

  3. This American Association of Physicians and Surgeons scares me. Their supposed peer reviewed journal wears its politics on its sleeve. And I don't see too much science in it.

    Who are these guys?

  4. Truthy, the WND article in question is here.

    I'm surprised you're not a subscriber to this excellent media outlet, which is the favoured internet organ for the most extreme of the fundamentalist Christian loony right wing. Its chief function, as far as I can tell, is to make Fox News look fair, reasoned and balanced by comparison.They once banned Anne Coulter for being too liberal. Last year they did a whole issue on “America’s Gay Obsession.”

    I wonder if Fiala knows about WingNutDaily's hardline stance on abortion? I wonder if the WingNutters know who Fiala is when he's at home?

    In any case Fiala's "science" on HPV and HIV will be right at home at WND. Now put down that tofu burger, son, and check out this brilliant article. No, it's not a parody:

    Soy is making kids 'gay'

  5. Hey, don't be criticizing our gal, Dr. Orient! Many of you don't know that we Koch brothers have the largest private company of the USA, and that we started the John Birch society. Oh, those were the days! But then we had to get creative, and we found our best friend Dr. Orient and her incredible biased JAPAND! Orient and her journal are a medical equivalent of Fox news! Orient recruited the right wing son of Phyllis Schafly as lawyer, and now we have the perfect political machine that poses as medical doctors! Perfect! Orient has been a leading force in the Tea Party. She is 100% behind Duesberg. She is funded by freedom works and by us Koch brothers. Ha! We have all the politicians in our pocket like so many nickles. We hired Clark Baker to destroy Semmelweis, and to join the AAPS as our stooge front group.

    Real doctors don't have the stomach to join our neo-nazi KKK group. But Jane Orient does! Orient. Baker and Gil- the triumphant trio!

    Join us! AAPS does not require any logic. It is a wonderland of fantasy!

    Citizens United! Our signature court case. We bought Clarence Thomas, and we have bought Congress. You scientists are too wimpy to fight back!

    Long live the United States of Koch!

  6. Once and for all, every true denialist must denounce Clark Baker! One minute Clark clains he doesn't believe HIV exists, then vice versa. Which is it Clark? Does HIV exist? Or is it a kindly passanger virus. You can't have it both ways.

    Perthians of the world unite! The time has come to end Duesberg nonsens. You are either with us or against us.

    Death to Clark! Put Duesberg on trial!

  7. Hardly surprising you trying to lump AIDs Dissidents in with Anti Vaxers, would it have something to do with the CHIP programs second largest grant recipient being the Autism Department?

    You are such a vacuous joke fat boy especially seeing that the 2011 annual report for CHIPS shows that since 2005 you've received over 17 million dollars in grants. And one of your major achievements this year was to throw a major lunch, "more canapes anyone?"

    BTW what are those "Private Corporation" donations that they don't name????

  8. Free Lunch.

    Thanks for sharing your insanity with the world.
    I did not make Fiala an Anti-vaxer any more than I made him an AIDS Denier. Just as I did not make David Crowe an anti-cancer treatment or global warming denier, or Henry Bauer a Nessie Hunter, or Kary Mullis see glowing raccoons, or David Rasnick afraid of the CIA and FBI, or Celia Fiber a Tea Bagger.

    You guys just are what you.

    And so you think vaccines cause Autism? Crazy and stupid, a dangerous combination.

    I think that $17M is off a couple million. I will check on that.

    That major lunch, moron, was for 400 homeless and marginally housed people living with AIDS. I know you think they should just get jobs, but we try to feed hungry people.

    Please let me know what corporation has ever given me or my research program money. EVER. Why not take a couple decades and look for that. We could use it right now.

    Thanks again and please keep em coming!

  9. By the way, I fixed the link..thanks for letting me know.

  10. I wonder just how really peaceful those anti-abortion protesters are? If they are like the "Christians" who oppose abortion here in America, then I just may be on Fiala's side on that one! I think some of the "pro lifers" here in America are really the demonic ones. Not to mention hypocrites since they say they treasure life but kill abortion doctors here in this country! But, most "Christians" are hypocrites in my experience.

  11. NotElon, there's a classic article about the AAPS and its "journal" here.

    David Gorski wrote about them here, and even Rachel Maddow has had a bit of fun with them.

    Basically, they're an extreme right wing libertarian political group. Their "peer reviewed" journal is mostly off-the wall political ranting about the usual extreme right hobby-horses - illegal immigrants, gays, big government, gun control, the evils of secular humanism, etc, with woefully poor junk science covering such topics as how abortion causes breast cancer, how vaccines cause autism and of course HIV/AIDS denialism.

    Henry Bauer has published four laughably inept HIV/AIDS denialist articles in JPandS. Guess who was the "peer reviewer" for at least two of them?

  12. We are the real voice of the American Independent Physician. We are the silent majority of hooded KKK members. We created a home for ex-John Birchers. We led the Tea Party. We created Clark Baker, and sent him as our hired gun to destroy the Semmelweis society!

    Backed by the Koch brothers, we salute Dr. Gil and all he stands for! We love freedom! Freedom to experience real viruses. Suffering selects for the strongest in society, so we can breed a Superhuman in the mine shafts of Dr. Strangelove.

    Freedom means that we must let Tiny Tim die and decrease the surplus population. Socialism would let the Tiny Tims of the world live. The world should exist only for the super-rich.

    Only Koch Brother rich deserve the care of AAPS doctots. Join us! Let humanity die now!

  13. There were ties between AAPS and Semmelweis Society International long before the dirty hands awards debacle.

    This is the first capture of the Semmelweis website in the Internet archive (Nov 2004), AAPS Online is under "related links" in the menu on the left:

  14. Yes, it is I, Dr. Semmelweis, come back from the grave. I told my beloved society never to get near the AAPS- their white hooded robes and swastizas should have been a tip off. It is a shame that SSI was infiltrated by the AAPS.

    However, to be fair, it can be pointed out that England and Germany had ties before WWII. Darth Vader had ties to Luke long before the Star Wars.

    Usually, villains check out their targets before they gobble them up.

    And scientists have ties to non-scientists. So, a few social contacts between SSI and AAPS are understandable. But once SSI found out what AAPS is all about, the entire group faced down the threat and opposed the scam artists, often at gteat cost.

  15. Top 10 Worst
    Things for Your Immune System

    What? No HIV. Looks like the supposed T4 killer of all time which couldn't make the list is deemed insignificant by the general public.

    You can all go home now and this useless blog closed for all the insane stupid comments in this thread for HIV is a big nothing.

  16. Remember a couple of years ago when the members of were teaching each other how to manipulate the system to defraud the U.S. Government for disability payments on a disease they did not even believe in? Well, it's still alive on the ReThinking AIDS Facebook page.

    John Robert Hankins who claims he has been HIV+ for 28 years, never taken HAART and is healthier than a horse is proudly admitting that he accepts $1,200 per month for Section 8 housing! These people have absolutely no shame. Although I am not sure Mr. Hankins has all his mental faculties anyway. He is also discussing his rampant Meth usage as well as other illicit drugs. Maybe Clark Baker is referring to John Hankins when he uses the term "Meth Tranny"!

  17. Wow, Anony. What a rational argument. Some popular fluff piece does mention that getting infected with a serious disease might be bad for the immune system, ergo that disease doesn't exist.

    Of course, it didn't mention huffing paint, so that must be good for you. Eating feces? Not on that list. I think I'll do it right now.