tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post7655677084466060954..comments2024-02-25T14:29:44.021-05:00Comments on Denying AIDS and other oddities: Killing the AIDS Denialist's Montagnier Rant: In His Own (unedited) WordsSeth Kalichmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01715826946361587097noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-50310748913582634602011-12-18T12:39:08.543-05:002011-12-18T12:39:08.543-05:00This page does a great job of showing who the real...This page does a great job of showing who the real "denialists" are. To whit, at its nub. in the comment above from notapatronisingtosser:<br /><br />"What Montagnier said in the unabridged clip was WHAT HE SAID - and no amount of consequent flim-flam on his Parisian part undoes what HE said - his WORDS are recorded for posterity."<br /><br />Notable here is the embarassed avoidance of mentioning of what Montagneir actually said, namely that "AIDS" can be cured with a bit of mere nutritional support. Which does of course raise the possibility that that "AIDS" might have been caused by deficient nutrition in the first place. Which is what Peter Duesberg has been saying for some years or am I in la-la land?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-26875969563002521372011-01-26T14:12:57.228-05:002011-01-26T14:12:57.228-05:00Transmission of a virus that can't be r
reliab...Transmission of a virus that can't be r<br />reliably tested for - are we sure and how? And of course the discoverer says it only hurts you ( the virusus that is ) if you are already really,really sick. Denialism is getting a better name every year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-8161468344409735982010-03-02T08:18:50.580-05:002010-03-02T08:18:50.580-05:00Of course the silliness of using a study intended ...Of course the silliness of using a study intended to reduce the rate of transmission to prove a lack of transmission is obvious to almost anyone with the IQ of a walnut or higher. Many studies have shown the sexual transmission of HIV, including some by Padian herself. The problem with denialism is that they only accept what they like (i.e. what confirms their previous beliefs). This is the complete opposite of science.Poodle Stomperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14071485010133858924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-74146752304231914462010-02-28T02:02:55.535-05:002010-02-28T02:02:55.535-05:00Oh and Luke - grow up!Oh and Luke - grow up!notapoxystudentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-35495678897961667252010-02-28T02:02:07.765-05:002010-02-28T02:02:07.765-05:00Nobody misquoted Padian except herself - she denie...Nobody misquoted Padian except herself - she denied the reality of her own findings - to wit - zero conversions - in her pulling up of knickers to avoid being cast into the HIV-denier wilderness. She can SAY she was misquoted until her silly, sycophantic, lickspittle head falls off but her data speak for themselves. She can back-pedal, capitulate and even ululate as much as she wants but it won't UNDO the facts - ZERO conversions.<br />What Montagnier said in the unabridged clip was WHAT HE SAID - and no amount of consequent flim-flam on his Parisian part undoes what HE said - his WORDS are recorded for posterity.<br />The "scientific" differences in being "off guard" and "on guard" for the "HIV Police" are culturally fascinating aren't they Seth? Why don't you stick that under your trick cycle microscope hey Seth? Oh yeah - because you wouldn't have a job anymore.notapatronisingtossernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-64491572656644788562010-02-27T00:25:46.941-05:002010-02-27T00:25:46.941-05:00Broken? I'm not so sure. They managed to conti...Broken? I'm not so sure. They managed to continue to misquote Padian years after her study was published, so I doubt we've heard the end of the Montagnier Myth.Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16126035606991777869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-41942935372197339022010-02-25T23:07:51.640-05:002010-02-25T23:07:51.640-05:00Chris
It is true that AIDS Denialism is propped ...Chris <br /><br />It is true that AIDS Denialism is propped up by conspiracy theories. <br /><br />What is interesting is that the conspiracies in denialism are industry, government, peer-review cover-up conspiracies, speaking to a very different cultural group than AIDS genocide conspiracies. <br /><br />The cultural differences in conspiracy thinking are fascinating and are being studied. <br /><br />Now that the Padian Rant has been squashed, it is good to see the Montagnier Myth being broken.Seth Kalichmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01715826946361587097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-9166346686042328012010-02-25T22:52:53.531-05:002010-02-25T22:52:53.531-05:00Ultimately all HIV Denialism resolves back to a co...Ultimately all HIV Denialism resolves back to a conspiracy theory. The beauty about a conspiracy theory is that it is unfalsifiable. Any contradictory evidence is obviously part of the conspiracy.<br /><br />HIV Denialists will now claim that the Medical Pharmaceutical Cartel has forced Montagnier to produce this paper. They will claim that Montagnier secretly agrees with the Denialists but cannot say this publicly.Chris Noblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-633581663557175057.post-71475353651658245382010-02-25T22:31:56.203-05:002010-02-25T22:31:56.203-05:00So what is the deal?
AIDS Denialists love to say ...So what is the deal? <br />AIDS Denialists love to say Luc Montagnier supports their view. Obviously that film clip from the denialist movie is a scam. The section you highlight on Duesberg is priceless. <br /><br />I followed that thread on how when asked to read real science the AIDS Denialists run off. I suppose when faced with Montagier's own unedited words they do the same.<br />Cool Post!Tampanoreply@blogger.com